Ultimate shoulder rides

Hey guys. I'm back and I have been curious about something. Taking selfish has become very popular nowadays, and I am a kinda sort of photographer/selfie taker. The past few shoulder rides I have recently been involved in, I'll hand the girl I'm carrying my tablet that has a camera for selfies and have her take some. Now I have noticed there are several ways to have this done. Either the carrier can take the selfie or the rider can. Typically when the rider takes it, he or she will hold it high above his or her head to where it's showing the pic looking down on the person riding on shoulders, whereas from the selfie being taken from the carrier you get a closer look at the carrier while looking up at the rider. Now my latest ride, I decided to challenge myself with my friend Kristi. Well we decided to take what we call "mirror pics" where we'll take pics while looking at the mirror  pretty self explanatory.  Well she decided what if she got  on my shoulders and take some pics that way. So I put her on my shoulders and discovered this is quite tricky. This is because we took them off my phone which doesn't have a selfie camera. So we had to point the phone at the mirror and look at the reflection to get a good shot. Well we decided to turn the phone around and take selfies and look at the reflection to get a good angle of how the selfie would turn out. So we took some and they came out ok. Lol. Any of you guys ever take a selfie while on or carrying someone on your shoulders? Or am I the only one lol