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Hey guys. Long time no see. So I've noticed something about when I give my friends shoulder rides. Something that I think affects the weiget of the rider. So some of my friends named Rosie, sometimes when I carry her, she tends to lean forward so her belly is pressed hard against my head. Now she's not that heavy, but when she leans forward she seems to get heavier, but if she sits back to where I can't feel her belly, she seems to be lighter. How can this be? Is there something about the position of the rider that affects their weight and the duration of the ride?
P.s I posted some pics in the WOM and WOW albums
Wom
Starts at http://www.ultimateshoulderrides.com/forum/img/gall … 427695037.jpg
ends at http://www.ultimateshoulderrides.com/forum/img/gall … 427693655.jpg
Wow
starts at http://www.ultimateshoulderrides.com/forum/img/gall … 427695152.jpg
ends at http://www.ultimateshoulderrides.com/forum/img/gall … 427695289.jpg
P.s.s. there are some duplicates, can we get if them please, my WiFi was acting up when I uploaded them
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Hey you are right.
If the girl sits on neck or bend forward and her belly is on neck, its very difficult to carry her and even stand, how much lighter the girl is.
i remember a 40 kg girl, very light girl has sat on my neck while riding, and it was my toughest ride.
Ltsaurus Rex wrote:
Hey guys. Long time no see. So I've noticed something about when I give my friends shoulder rides. Something that I think affects the weiget of the rider. So some of my friends named Rosie, sometimes when I carry her, she tends to lean forward so her belly is pressed hard against my head. Now she's not that heavy, but when she leans forward she seems to get heavier, but if she sits back to where I can't feel her belly, she seems to be lighter. How can this be? Is there something about the position of the rider that affects their weight and the duration of the ride?
P.s I posted some pics in the WOM and WOW albums
Wom
Starts at http://www.ultimateshoulderrides.com/forum/img/gall … 427695037.jpg
ends at http://www.ultimateshoulderrides.com/forum/img/gall … 427693655.jpg
Wow
starts at http://www.ultimateshoulderrides.com/forum/img/gall … 427695152.jpg
ends at http://www.ultimateshoulderrides.com/forum/img/gall … 427695289.jpg
P.s.s. there are some duplicates, can we get if them please, my WiFi was acting up when I uploaded them
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Ltsaurus Rex:
At last a question I can answer from the carriers position.
The more directly the load is over your center, the easier it is to bear. If your back arches forward of your sacral curve (the S shape of your spine) your back muscles compensate so you don't fall on your face. You walk by leaning forward already so the extra forward leaning makes it harder to walk. This is why primitive people carry heavy loads on their head rather than packing it on their back.
If a rider could sit on your head and your neck was strong enough to support him or her you would find it easier than the same person sitting on your shoulders. Of course the people who carry heavy loads this way have developed strong necks from years of carrying weight on their head and a human rider sitting on top of your head would have a lot of trouble keep her/his balance because humans are not a balanced load. When you carry someone who is sitting on your shoulders, you lean forward more to compensate for the backward pull of the person's weight just as you would with a pack-pack on your shoulders. If that person leans forward your body compensates and works harder.
I learned this from back-packing and learning that putting the heaviest things in the top of the pack made carrying the pack easier. It's also why it's sometimes easier for people to carry someone on their shoulders for a on distance than to carry the person piggy-back.
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Audreyb wrote:
Ltsaurus Rex:
At last a question I can answer from the carriers position.
The more directly the load is over your center, the easier it is to bear. If your back arches forward of your sacral curve (the S shape of your spine) your back muscles compensate so you don't fall on your face. You walk by leaning forward already so the extra forward leaning makes it harder to walk. This is why primitive people carry heavy loads on their head rather than packing it on their back.
If a rider could sit on your head and your neck was strong enough to support him or her you would find it easier than the same person sitting on your shoulders. Of course the people who carry heavy loads this way have developed strong necks from years of carrying weight on their head and a human rider sitting on top of your head would have a lot of trouble keep her/his balance because humans are not a balanced load. When you carry someone who is sitting on your shoulders, you lean forward more to compensate for the backward pull of the person's weight just as you would with a pack-pack on your shoulders. If that person leans forward your body compensates and works harder.
I learned this from back-packing and learning that putting the heaviest things in the top of the pack made carrying the pack easier. It's also why it's sometimes easier for people to carry someone on their shoulders for a on distance than to carry the person piggy-back.
Touché, a lot of times when I have carried one of my friends piggyback style, it usually turns into a shoulder ride, due to the fact that I have an easier time carrying girls on my shoulders than I do giving them a piggyback
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Ltsaurus Rex:
I have never been the carrier except when the rider was a very little girl who didn't weigh enough to be a strain .
One man I met (I never was on him myself) who carries both women and men told me he preferred carrying women even if the woman is heavier because women have a lower center of gravity when sitting on him and that makes it easy to balance while walking.
Of all the ways to be carried I like piggyback the least. I find the position on the carrier's back uncomfortable and rather undignified . I have known some ladies who see shoulder riding as "intimate" and I suppose it can be or might be from some peoples point of view but it is really a matter of each persons state of mind. Intimacy doesn't embarrass me very much or very often and I'm not affected by what others might be thinking.
The only practical reasons I can imagine for a rider to be carried piggyback for any distance would be if the rider is simply to large to sit on the carrier's shoulders or if the rider is afraid of sitting up that high.
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Audreyb wrote:
Ltsaurus Rex:
I have never been the carrier except when the rider was a very little girl who didn't weigh enough to be a strain .
One man I met (I never was on him myself) who carries both women and men told me he preferred carrying women even if the woman is heavier because women have a lower center of gravity when sitting on him and that makes it easy to balance while walking.
Of all the ways to be carried I like piggyback the least. I find the position on the carrier's back uncomfortable and rather undignified . I have known some ladies who see shoulder riding as "intimate" and I suppose it can be or might be from some peoples point of view but it is really a matter of each persons state of mind. Intimacy doesn't embarrass me very much or very often and I'm not affected by what others might be thinking.
The only practical reasons I can imagine for a rider to be carried piggyback for any distance would be if the rider is simply to large to sit on the carrier's shoulders or if the rider is afraid of sitting up that high.
Yeah, that makes sense. For me it's just easier to carry girls on my shoulders. I've only carried one guy because of a game of truth or dare. Now Audreyb say we met up and hang out, and we were required to walk a great distance, and your legs got tired, and you want a piggyback, I would give you a piggyback and see how far I could go, but probably not long after I would let you down and offer you a shoulder ride because I think it would be easier to have a girl on my shoulders than having a girl on my back.
(P.s there was a time me and one of my friends tried transitioning from a piggyback into a shoulder ride, it actually worked lol)
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Ltsaurus Rex:
I can only imagine a few instances where I might asked to be carried piggyback but quite a few where I might ask to be carried in general in any way that was practical. In most of these cases it would likely have to do with my shoes. My weakness for sexy lethal shoes have over ruled practicality and even my fashion sense more often than I like to admit and I often talk myself into wearing shoes that become painful to walk in, even shoes that are not as hot as I would like them to be.
In your scenario a great deal would depend on where we happened to be. If it was in my home town where I'm likely to encounter people I know and do business with, I might opt for being carried piggyback, though I would probably prefer to be carried in your arms when my feet started hurting, the latter if I believed you were strong enough and I felt secure.
But if it was a less populated area or in a town/city where I'm not likely to see or encounter anyone I know, I would accept your offer or even suggest that I ride on your shoulders. This would almost certainly be my option if we had to walk a long distance.
As I have said here previously, I'm not very much affected by what other people "might" think about my actions within reasonable limits and I regard myself high enough to choose to burden someone else if the alternative is painful for me.
Since examining this subject on this forum I have also explored my feelings and experiences.
I mentioned in a previous discussion a time when I was on a group foot tour in another country where I made my usual error concerning my footwear. A man who was on the same tour was having a similar problem in walking the distances required and semi-seriously suggested hiring one of the local peons to carry him on his shoulders. These locals (peons) are used to carrying heavy burdens, often on their heads or shoulders and would probably have welcomed to opportunity to make money since they are quite poor. We didn't actually hire carriers as the opportunity to do so didn't present itself and I don't know if I would have at the time if I could.
But in reexamining the idea since that time and remembering the pain I was in at the end of that tour, I think I would have finished that tour sitting on the shoulders of anyone I could hire for the job. This would especially be true if the man who suggested the option had done the same since he was quite a bit heavier, and I wouldn't have even considered what anyone else might think about it. Obviously I would of course choose better shoes if I were to take that tour again.
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Quite a series of points you make. But yea I am very strong despite my delicate appearance
and I has pictures of all three ways to prove I could take you off your feet :3
Carried in arms
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Piggyback
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Shoulder Ride
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Ltsaurus Rex:
The lady appears to be larger than I am from what I can see without a contrast for perspective.
However, even without further evidence I would let a man try to lift and carry me if he wanted to and I knew him well enough to at least accept his motives.
By that I mean if he's just a guy who wants to feel my thighs around his head I may or may not sit on his shoulders depending on how I felt about it and him at the time. As I said, I'm simply not shy or inhibited by many things and rarely about anything I might feel would be fun.
As an adult, the smallest person who ever tried to lift me on his shoulder's was a boy who was 10 or 11 years old and small and skinny for his age. There was nothing really strange about it and the boy's mother was there at the time . He got under me and I sat on his narrow shoulders and let him try. I didn't believe he could but I sat down on him and let him give it his best effort.
He couldn't get me more than an inch off the ground with his best effort but I stayed on him until he gave up and asked me to get off. My point is that I let him attempt to prove himself even when I was sure he would fail and I believe anyone should have the opportunity to try.
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Audreyb wrote:
Ltsaurus Rex:
The lady appears to be larger than I am from what I can see without a contrast for perspective.
However, even without further evidence I would let a man try to lift and carry me if he wanted to and I knew him well enough to at least accept his motives.
By that I mean if he's just a guy who wants to feel my thighs around his head I may or may not sit on his shoulders depending on how I felt about it and him at the time. As I said, I'm simply not shy or inhibited by many things and rarely about anything I might feel would be fun.
As an adult, the smallest person who ever tried to lift me on his shoulder's was a boy who was 10 or 11 years old and small and skinny for his age. There was nothing really strange about it and the boy's mother was there at the time . He got under me and I sat on his narrow shoulders and let him try. I didn't believe he could but I sat down on him and let him give it his best effort.
He couldn't get me more than an inch off the ground with his best effort but I stayed on him until he gave up and asked me to get off. My point is that I let him attempt to prove himself even when I was sure he would fail and I believe anyone should have the opportunity to try.
Ah I see to be honest I don't really give shoulder rides to feel a girls thighs around me. It's usually either to help one who is having trouble walking, viewing/reaching something, or just to have fun at events or swimming. I also like trying to see how much I can take and how long I can go until I I let the rider down.
Btw which picture were you referring to being larger than you?
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Ltsaurus Rex:
I was referring to the one sitting on your shoulders in the three you posted. I honestly thought they were the same girl. I didn't doubt your motives, I simply mean that some men have ulterior motives. To be honest I often don't care because I like sitting on a man's shoulders and I think I look cute sitting up there. Up until last summer I usually only sat on someone's shoulders out of practicality or a temporary need to be carried, to view something or I was tired etc.
I always tend to feel like I'm in charge but I'm also mindful that it is a service being performed for my benefit.
My reasons and attitude vary with my mood.
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I see fair enough. If you are ever in Ohio, we should hang out and I'll carry you on my shoulders
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Hey bud, we need to meet up sometime this summer . I bet you could hold me on your shoulders in a pool or in a lake , something like that ,, Be cool to lift and carry you as well . let me know
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How much do you weigh in pounds? And I wouldn't mind riding on shoulders for a change. I mean occasionally I ride my brother's shoulders but the rides dont usually last long
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im 6-0 200 # How bout you ? That's cool I Would be happy to carry you on my shoulders all ya want . When it comes to shoulder rides Ya can never get enough it seems haha
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Damn I'm only 5'7 and 130 lbs so it seems that I shall be the one on your shoulders lol if we hang out
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Fine with me bud
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