Ultimate shoulder rides

Vagelli - I deleted all the pictures you mentioned, not Gunde - and the reasons have already been explained in detail for everyone in here. I deleted not only some of your best pictures, but many of mine as well. And when I say they are "yours" and mine" keep in mind that none of them belong to "us" at all - they are merely pictures we found, and whilst not denying all the great work you do, how many of these people would like the idea their photos are posted in here anyway? We need to stay as low-key as possible in here and that is the reality of the situation. I didn't like deleting so many pictures, but the reasons have already been explained. There will be a solution to this problem soon as we certainly want to view any interesting pictures you find including those with older girls on younger boys. It is all very well to say you will no longer post in here, but tell me, where do you plan to post? All the relevant Yahoo groups have gone to heaven - including any group relating to older girls on younger boys. Even the long-standing Yahoo groups relating to this sort of thing have recently been purged. Is anyone surprised? This is one of the reasons I will not go near Yahoo - if you open up any groups in there, especially anything relating to shoulder riding, you can be guaranteed that eventually, they will be deleted, with no reason or explanation. No questions asked. Unless you also want this site to also head in the same direction, then trust me when I say we did the right thing by deleting many pictures, some of them should have not been deleted, and I apologise for that, but surely having this community survive is better than having it not. We would have been shut down for sure if this action was not taken. I didn't like doing it, but we had no choice. It was not being paranoid, or a knee-jerk reaction as some people in here have claimed, it was NECESSARY IN ORDER TO ENSURE OUR SURVIVAL!! I did not like doing it, but how many times do I have to tell you all - WE HAD NO CHOICE!!

Regards

Scotty

I thought the 'other' folder was where man on man pictures were supposed to go?

As far as deleting photos is concerned, I think it comes down to 'context'. If you visit a site like myspace and type something like 'chickenfight' into the search box then you are immediately changing the context under which the photos have been posted. This is easily illustrated by clicking on any of the photos returned by the search and then viewing the album in which the picture was posted. It is more than likely that the photo is the only one in the album which is on that subject , in most cases the other photos may have no (for instance) pool shots at all. By taking that photo out of the context in which it was posted and then putting that photo into a group like this is what causes the potential problem. As such I dont think the administrators have any choice but to remove these pictures. 

This is a 'fetish' group whether members like it or not . One has only to read some of the comments that get posted on here to come to that conclusion. To say otherwise is self-delusional. Having said that, fetish does not mean perverted. I dont think there is anything wrong with this group and have never found any photo to be offensive, but I understand why the administrators have done what they have.

Last edited by jz829w (2009-01-05 09:47:41)

I agree with Vagelli. if we admit there is a sexual aspect to this community, it's absurd to separate pictures on the basis of their location (pool) and not on the basis of the gender of the rider. as heterosexual, it bothers me to see pictures of men riding and I guess it's the same for homosexual with pictures of women riding, so why not separate?

Gunda, apart from this issue I think that your contribution to this group is amazing!!!

Vagelli, I still don't understand why you don't post in the forum the links to the "older girls on younger boys" pictures you found?

Can we have a little decorum in this conversation? I wish everyone would take a deep breath and relax for a few minutes.

This used to be a nice group where we shared stories, experiences, pictures, and videos about our passion for shoulder riding. I believe that some of you are getting carried away, unnecessarily so, with worrying about how the inclusion of minors can possibly be construed as pornographic. My own opinion is that all viewing or discussion of shoulder riding is open to individual interpretation; and all posts submitted herein, as long as it does not explicitly detail the sexual exploitation of minors, is permissible. If the inclusion of these postings offends anyone (I believe this is likely a minority of bonus members) perhaps someone can suggest an alternative that will not interfere with the enjoyment of this group by the majority.

I am surprised at the deletion of many pictures or the reluctance to post pictures or videos that include minor children. I consider this to be observing them engaging in a harmless, fun activity. Also most of these postings are already available in one or more other public domains.

Could someone please repost the deleted photos and/or videos?

Thanks for allowing me to express my opinion.

Lindy

vageli wrote:

.I still would prefer not to see guys on guys..

Then do what i do and dont look at them.

Also about the risk of this board being deleted: Cant the mods backup all that was posted so far? And the danger is real sadly. It is very important to have a backup just in case.