Ultimate shoulder rides

I'm now waiting for one of our members on this Community to try this suggestion and find out if it works!

The way to approach a girl is to act totally naïve - girls love stupid guys. They all think guys are stupid anyway. I can't think why!

checkmate guy.... this is amazingly good strategy! But its actually a big challenge for guys in Asian countries to ask for this kinda help from a girl. Most women in this part of the world behave as if mounting on a guy's shoulder is a big deal. however some chicks do enjoy it, but still its very hard to find them. Common problem for ponies here!!

I think  that  a  lot would depend on  the girl you  ask.   Some  girls might be suspicious of  a guy's motives  and  as  checkmateguy said, if the  guy  seems innocent in his request, the  girl or woman  may be more inclined.   
But  there are  many reasons a girl/woman might  choose not to  sit on your shoulders  and those reason are  more about her than  about the  guy.    Several times when talking about  this activity with  other  ladies, someone would confess that they  haven't sat on a man's shoulders since they were little  girls sitting on their father's shoulders  and would be afraid to sit up there and be carried.
Two other ladies said  they might be to  heavy  and didn't want the  man talking about them (the ladies)  squashing them. Women are often  sensitive about their weight.

The  best  way  to  get a  particular  woman  to sit on your shoulders,  assuming she's not afraid  or concerned about  being  to heavy,  is to have your  friends  carrying girls  on their shoulders.  Women  often  want  what other women  have  and to do what other women are doing. Seeing other women on top of  men's shoulders is  sort of an  icebreaker  and makes  it  acceptable.  At that point you  could innocently ask  if  she would like to  try  it.  If she is comfortable with herself, she  might accept your  offer.
But you have to keep  in mind  that women like to feel accepted  and petite  even  when  they are not small or  delicate.  You should not  groan or  do anything to make her think  that  you  consider her heavy. Also  keep  your hands to  yourself  and  don't take any  liberties in  touching her  like  striking her legs  any more than  needed to secure her  position.  Just because she  sitting on you  doesn't mean she likes you in that way.    Women like sitting on  men  in many different ways  and for many different reasons.  If you get her  up on your shoulders   you  should make her  feel  welcome and comfortable . You  should be obedient  and  not try  to  frighten her or let her feel  powerless by  things like refusing to put her down or anything to  frighten her.
You should treat  her  like a  queen  and behave like an obedient pony who is happy to serve her.
Above all, don't make any  lewd  comments. She  is aware that her crotch is  pressing against  your  neck . Don't  make any reference to this fact. If  you like it  or don't like it, stay silent about it  unless she wants to  talk about it and that would be unusual. 

I  rather like feeling a  guy  strain  under me to serve me  and  knowing  he's  straining,  but not all  women are  comfortable with being reminded of this effort. Until  you  know her  well enough  don't assume that  she wants you to do anything other than carry  her.

Checkmateguy  seems to  like  to dominate and sort of  bully  the guys who serve  as his  voluntary  slaves. I  find this  rather sexy    but  don't  assume that the  lady sitting  on your shoulders  shares such  views.  She will  decide whether this is an activity she might choose  to do in the future.

guero:

In  regard to my plus size  friend  I  don't think she would have any  real problem sitting on  a much  smaller man's shoulders, assuming she could be  reasonably certain he wouldn't drop her.
Most of the men  she dates are significantly smaller than she is and are men  who have a preference for  plus size  ladies. Some of these men are less than  half her   weight  though a few have been more of what I would call "dumpy"   as in short and somewhat fat.   She  is getting  more confident and less concerned about her  size.  She has in fact engaged in  pony play with at least one man ,sitting on  his back with him on  hands and knees  and  probably  more than one  man. She will  sit on  a  man's lap  without an invitation  and   clearly finds  it amusing when  they find her weight   uncomfortable.

I would  imagine  that if you  demonstrated  interest in her  in a chance meeting   and dated her,  ultimately expressing a desire to have her  on your shoulders  she  would  probably let you  try.
I  doubt a  chance  meeting  with a  blunt request  to have her sit on your shoulders  would be successful. She is  used  to  men with fetishes and submissive  desires  but it's  unlikely she would  let you  lift her without knowing you first.  Perhaps the exception would be a matter of  necessity  such as  carrying her across a stream  or if she was injured.

As for me, I'm not  big or heavy and  only a  boy or a  midget would be  significantly smaller  than I  am. I previously mention that  boy trying to lift me on his shoulders at that  garden party. I found it  unacceptable since  he  didn't ask  , but  I  sat on him and let him  try,  but  also to  punish him for not asking  permission.  It's  simply not proper  for a  boy  to put his head  between a woman's legs without asking  and stating his intentions.
In  regard to  my  riding on the shoulders of a  man  who was  smaller than  me  (125 pounds) assuming I could sit on his shoulders without difficulty in  maintain  my perch,  his  size or frailty wouldn't be  my  problem.  If he can't  bear my weight  he shouldn't have tried. I  did  sit on the shoulders of a very  skinny  boy   for a chicken fight  as a  teenager because he was  the only boy  available. I  nearly  drowned  him   but  it's  not  my fault that he was so  weak.

guero:

Of course I  know  she(my  friend) is single. She is  divorced and has two children as I said  previously.
I know she has dated men ranging from early 20's to well over 50  and one who looked to be nearly 70. I didn't ask their ages  of course.    She is becoming  quite  assertive with  the men she dates and it appears that she chooses men who prefer big and assertive  ladies . You would have to treat her with respect and deference.
Since you obviously want her to  sit on your shoulders ,her comfort with you in general would be key.
Once a reasonable degree of intimacy is  established, having her sit on your lap (she  may  do this  on her own) and making her feel  welcome to  sit there would help.    She is an  adult and will  know that  your interest in her will involve her size ,  but  you shouldn't be let her think  that  is your  only interest.   
I don't  know how the horsey ride situation  started with  the  guy  that time I walked in on the scene. I didn't really ask  ,  but  I had the impression that she  initiated the  game.  Perhaps it started by  the man being on his  hands and knees for some other reason and she simply took the opportunity. I have sometimes found  a man in   that position an almost irresistible invitation.  Perhaps that cold break the ice and you   might suggest that you would like to try  lifting her on your shoulders.
As for her thighs,  I  honestly wouldn't  know. They are  proportionate to her size as  my own are and since mine  are 19 inches, I might guess that hers are 30 inches  or so.  I'm  just guess at the math.
Considering her overall  size, I think  her legs are quite feminine and shapely.

Audreyb:

Another idea I had would be bringing up the idea of exercise.  If I told her that I was trying to strength train to squat 275 pounds would that idea seem like a good one?

Audreyb:

That's fine, I understand.


You're right though, maybe with certain people the key is just to be honest.  Also you seem to enjoy watching smaller men growing tired under the weight of heavier females.  What's the heaviest woman you've seen on the smallest man's shoulders?  What was the situation?

guero:

I must assume you mean adults or teenagers of similar ages? 
Actualy,  based on my experiences, I have come to see the shoulder riding activity as one of  dominance and submission in  the simplest terms.  This is not to imply that every situation of shoulder sitting or riding  implies a dominant /submissive relationship because there are  many instances where  practicality  or performance art  is the  purpose.
However when  shoulder riding is pursued as an activity,  the  rider should be the  key figure and dominate  the activity  and the  carrier submit to  performing this service. It should be  as much  like a rider sitting on a  horse as  possible and the  strain and effort of the carrier  is not  just required  but should be expected  for as long as the activity is pursued  .
If a  carrier  makes the choice of performing this service for a heavier  rider , That service should be as absolute as his/her endurance will allow. Anything less is disingenuous  and self-indulgent.  I  believe this regardless of the  gender or sexuality of the rider or  carrier.

But as a woman ,  and knowing  how  heavy women  are sometimes  treated with distain by men, I feel  that carriers should  put extra effort  in their duties  with  heavier  women.   I have always been  petite. But  my  mother  was  quite  large  and  several of my  friends  were  heavy all of their  lives and I  saw the  teasing and  abuse  they endured. So when I  see a man straining beneath a heavy woman I  see it as justice,  even if it is displaced. It's just  how I  feel.

The heaviest adult woman  I can  remember seeing on the smallest  man?   I  suppose it would have to be  based on proportion of  body weight. I  saw a woman I would guess to be in excess of  350 lbs. sitting on the shoulders of a short body builder who was probably  just over 200  lbs.  The poor woman had a great deal of trouble sitting on him even with him  hunched over.  A  lady  photographer I knew used her  assistant as a platform  regularly.  She was  over 200  lbs. and I doubt he was very  much over 100  lbs.  He was  quite thin  and not  much taller than I  am. How she  managed to sit on those  narrow shoulders  for so long  is hard  for  me to  imagine.  He did  strain  quite a  bit   but  of course it was  his  job.  I have seen  several  failures involving men  and  boys attempting to lift larger women.

trigger:

There really  isn't  very  much more to  tell.  I haven't  seen  the  lady in question for about  2 or 3 years.  The  boy was some kind of  relative to her, A  cousin or nephew though  marriage.  She mentioned the relationship  once   but  it's a detail I  have forgotten.   
We  have an  annual parade on the 4th of  July   and she photographs it for a  local town  paper.
Getting a  vantage point is  difficult  in the  crowd so she used her assistant  as a  perch to  get a good  view over the  crowd.   She was often  quite  demanding of  the  boy in  general and he  was often very  much a beast of  burden in  a manner of speaking,  carrying  all of her equipment    as  well as  being what I  would  have to  describe as a  mobile perch or  prop.  From  my observation,  she would tell him  when it was time to lift her  and he would  duck  his head between her thighs so  she could sit on him  and be lifted.  I felt a  bit of empathy for  him in  a way because his face indicated  a great deal of  strain  and effort  in lifting her and his face was also  quite  flushed after  several  minutes of supporting her. She of  course  was  involved  in her work and only  gave him  short  comments to  direct  him  to move in  some direction  to change the angle of the  photograph.
I  kept  my empathy  for him  to myself of  course since  he was her employee  and she had every  right to  expect him to perform as  directed. Yet she  never appeared to  show any  sign of concern for him  or even to be in any hurry to  be  put  back  down  when  the  parade or whatever she was  photographing was  over.
I  encountered her at the  veterans day  parade,  the  gay pride  parade and several other events and  we became friends  in the  casual sense. We  sort of lost touch  for some reason  but I  know she still  works in  my  area.     I  know  she eventually   terminated  the  boy  because she had a new assistant the last time I saw  her. I  don't know if the new assistant performed the same services but  he was at least a bit  larger than  the  previous one.

guero:

I don't  think I have encountered  that many at all. Perhaps  4 adult women in my lifetime. 
I'm  rather small as I have  mentioned but I tend to  gravitate toward larger women , possibly because my  mother was  large and I  felt  protective of heavy  women because  of  the  cruelty I  have witnessed.  Ugly  remarks  and  rejection  of  very  nice  girls and women because of their size.

My friend  Julia ,  as I  said before, doesn't ride on men's shoulders   that I  know of and I  have only seen her sit on a man's back (pony riding?) Which she  confessed  she  enjoys.
As for  my photographer friend, I  just  happened to  notice her , we struck up a  conversation  and I was somewhat surprised  when I  saw the use she made of her assistant. I'm far smaller than  she was  and I would not have  felt  confident sitting on his shoulders for any  length of time. If I  made  use of an assistant that way I would have  hired a sturdier man.  Of course I wouldn't be comfortable in questioning her actions  and the  boy was  paid for  his efforts. Perhaps she liked  sitting on him but she never demonstrated any sign  of interest in anything but her  photography or any concern about him  at all.  I  did  notice that she  didn't get put  back down as  quickly as I would had I completed   the  task.
I was  guessing at her weight  based on ladies I knew of similar size.I would say I  was close to correct   though. The  boy was certainly no  more than  110  lbs. He seemed otherwise healthy but very thin  and slight of frame.

I mentioned the  body builder lifting a  very heavy woman but  he was really quite strong and that lady was eager to let him try. I didn't  actually  know either of them.

I suppose it's just a matter of you finding the right woman  under the right circumstances. If she is  confident in herself and you  approach the subject properly she  may find the  prospect interesting  or at least amusing .

guero:

Perhaps you have encountered a large woman who would sit on your shoulders.
I have  encountered many situations of  men and women who  like the same unusual  things but  never seem  to  approach each other in regard to  their interests. I  find it rather unfortunate,  sad  really.  Far to many larger  women have endured rejection in  general  to be  completely confident  about anything concerning their  bodies.

On shoulder riding/sitting, I know there are some heavy girls at events  such as  parades and concerts  who see smaller  girls sitting on boys or men's shoulders and would very  much like  to be sitting up there but don't believe they  ever could or that  the  men would want them on their shoulders or that a  man  could support them  sitting up there.

I  honestly  don't  know how this  dilemma could be  resolved.  I might imagine a 3rd  party could broach the subject in some cases   but I think  a  dating service  that  put  you in  contact with plus size ladies would be a start. Some  large women are  quite confident and assertive . If you can find a way to express your interest semi-directly , you  may  find one or more who would  at least  discuss the subject.  I  might suggest  you start  by suggesting that you  find her size attractive and that you don't  believe she is particularly  heavy. You  might  suggest  proving it  by  saying you  could carry her without difficulty.  This could be  piggyback or with you on  all fours .  Once she  has been lifted  or she has sat on your back, it  may break the ice for  further experiments. Having her sit on your shoulders  while you're sitting in a  chair for example. 
Most women  like sitting on  men but most  don't like having their weight as an issue. So  how  these things work out hinges on your endurance , specifically,  don't imply that she's  crushing you even if she is.  Above all  be respectful and  kind. Don't  concentrate on your desires  or give her the impression that she is being used.

There was a clown on stilts and a guy came and offered me to lift so that I could talk to him!

checkmateguy:

Excuse  me,  but  don't  guys  who  ride  on other guy's shoulders  dominate and feel  superior  to the guys who  carry them?

For example,  you talked about  exercising a carrier  by sitting on his  shoulders or  neck and having him lift  you repeatedly. Wasn't that  an exercise  in  your dominance and superiority over the  man  you were sitting on?  I  don't know what other  relationship  you may have with  the  person in  question and it  really doesn't  matter, but  his  obvious willingness to obey your commands  while you  sat on him requesting or  demanding that he  strain  beneath  you  certainly implies his  submissiveness.  Your desire to be served in this matter  equally suggests  a  sense of superiority.

I want to make it  clear that this is  not  intended  to imply  that I   find fault with  either your activities  or  your  motivation. Quite the  contrary in fact.
I believe  you  are  correct in  fact    that a  woman would prefer to sit on the shoulders of a  man she  feels she  can  generally dominate  and  feels  superior  to, assuming  she can  expect  a certain  degree of  obedience  from  him.
My  point is  that such  an  attitude  and  relationship is more about  the  feelings in  the respective roles of rider vs  carrier than about the  genders  involved.