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I got a chance to ride "heavylifter" who I met through this site, the other evening. We went to the beach after dark, when it is pretty much deserted, and we really didn't get close to any other people although there were a few at a distance. HL gave me two rides, which were both several minutes long, although I didn't think to time them.
HL is an excellent carrier! I was wondering how we would accomplish the "mounting" problem, but that turned out to be no problem at all: he just crouched down, I positioned myself over his shoulders and he lifted me up. Just like that: worked perfectly the first time, no problem. It seemed like it wasn't difficult at all for him to do that, although it must take a lot of muscle power to do it. He was also extremely steady, so that I had no problem maintaining my balance and never even thought about the possibility of falling. (I've had a couple carriers where that was about all I COULD think about. With them, the unstable behavior often started right after mounting). We didn't end either ride because we had to. HL was not even breathing hard. He said he was not tired but was hot, and he was sweating a bit, but really not that much considering it was quite warm and humid.
My biggest complaint as the rider was that my weight seemed a little too far back, forcing me to work a bit to keep the top part of my legs extended so i wouldn't fall backwards. And that was the biggest reason for me wanting to end the rides when we did. I think I'll try sitting a bit closer to his neck on my next ride (which we have planned). Assuming that we solve that problem, I'm definitely going to push for a longer ride! HL is definitely capable of it (and I'll time our next ride). Incidentally, it has to be more work for the carrier to walk on sand, which sinks under his feet, although HL didn't seem to have any problem with that at all. I don't think you could ask for a better mount: strong, really well balanced, and completely steady and competent.
I think that HL would probably rather have a female rider, and I like the "rider in control" aspect whereas I think HL really just enjoys having someone on his shoulders, so there is a bit of negotiation to find what works best for both. But It was awesome just as it was, and I'm really looking forward to our next ride!
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It seems it was a great ride, thks to report it to the forum !
Indeed, walking in soft sand is extenuating, especially when carrying a rider on one's shoulders ! Heavylifter must be very strong ! ( btw, I am maybe a bit curious, but .... what is your weight? ). I'm not sure to correctly understand your balance problem : Didn't you have your feet tucked behind his back ? Or else, didn't he hold your thighs ?
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All I'd say is that when you're on someone's shoulders you have to actually ride the person. That's to say, just like a jockey takes control of his or her mount so a shoulder-rider must do that same - take control and RIDE the pony. The best shoulder-riding, as far as I have discovered, is to sit well forward on the pony's shoulders, with your crotch pressed tightly up to the back of the pony's neck, with your thighs sloping down and maybe crouching or leaning your body slightly forward. The way NOT to shoulder-ride a pony is to sit too far back on the pony's shoulders. This is how a lot of female riders ride their ponies - maybe because they are too shy to press their crotches firmly up to the back of their ponies' necks, i.e. they're coy. The big problem with riding a pony that way is that the rider is likely to fall off backwards. Essentially, successful and enjoyable shoulder-riding is all about confidence - get on that pony, take charge of him or her, and RIDE the beast of burden! Likewise, a good pony-guy/pony-girl will respond to a confident shoulder-rider. It's really a two-way thing - the pony wants the enjoyment of feeling the rider's weight on his or her shoulders and being controlled by the rider. In turn, the jockey wants the enjoyment of feeling human flesh under him or her, carrying his or her weight and following his or her orders as to what to do and how to do it. On those two latter points, and to get the best out of your pony, the carrying and use of a whip is recommended or maybe the wearing and use of heel-spurs - am I joking? Maybe and maybe not!
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I bet you're not joking, and I think you're absolutely right in fact !!! ![]()
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Agree with Checkmate guy. I am a carrier, and prefer my rider to use my neck as their saddle , on the very rare occasions that I have ridden I found it more pleasurable to ease forward on to the neck of my mount, their movement can stimulate the perineum area and can be very enjoyable.
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I'm around 165 lbs (75 kg). About the same as heavylifter, which makes his performance that much more impressive. I did have my feet behind his back, and he held my legs at least some of the time: at least I think so: I don't exactly remember. This was not a huge problem and didn't take much effort: just enough to be annoying. Ideally my center of gravity would be just a bit further forward. I expect to work a bit to balance myself, but otherwise I want to sit comfortably. I was pretty far forward as it was, but not right against his neck.
Checkmateguy, I definitely get where you are coming from, trust me! You've had a survey about that on the site and while all of us are into shoulder riding, the specifics about what different people find a turn-on are different. Finding a mount isn't easy, so I want to be aware of what he wants out of the experience and not "blow it" by being overly aggressive if that will be a turn-off. Of course maybe he's OK with that, which would be great(!), although I'm pretty sure that isn't what particularly interests him about SR. And I love riding under most any circumstances.
I brought this up because I've encountered it before: activities like shoulder riding are not really popular in the first place, so you are starting with a small set to begin with. Then a partner has to be in your area, they have to complement your role as carrier or rider, and the carrier has to be physically able to handle the riders weight. And then, from that very small set, you encounter a whole bunch of other possible incompatibilities: certain physical characteristics may be deal breakers, disagreement over whether the rider should be dominant and in control, etc. So it seems important for people to be open about what you want and like about SR, listen to what your partner wants and likes, be willing to experiment a bit and be honest about what your limits are and what things do and/or don't really matter to you.
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Wildfiregirl wrote:
Loving reading all of this. And I agree that it feels very nice, as a carrier, to feel the rider pressed against the back of my neck.
hello wildfire girl i,m liked share experiences of shoulder riding you and pics
please visit my facebook site shoulder riding man and share experiences thanks
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Hello
I'll be based in Italy this winter. All riders are welcome to ride me. I prefer heavy ones +85 kg.
I wanna try with 2 riders on me as well. I feel fit to do it.
No preferences about age or sex. Heavy male riders are welcome as well.
Here is my mail to catch up with me:
heavylifter77@gmail.com
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Carrying someone on sand or uneven ground even grass is hard work.... I think it's much better to carry someone on a firm floor....
I think it's up to the rider to find there balance too. Tucking their feet behind my back seems to make carrying the rider very stable....
If I'm lucky enough to find some to carry me, I love the feeling when the rider crouches down so I can climb onto their shoulders and then they stand up and lift me high on their shoulders....
Know its bit naughty, but it's a nice feeling to have my crotch pushed up against their neck.... However the feeling of carrying a guy on my shoulders or being carried by a guy is just great....
For me....., I'm not a big fan of the domination stuff at all.... For me it's all about the feeling of close contact and shoulder rides....
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... I'd like to add that if you haven't rode astride someone's shoulders since you were a kid, maybe, then you'll probably find it a strange experience and it is likely to take you several rides before you feel confident about riding somebody and not worry about falling off. As an experienced shoulder-rider, I would say the main thing to avoid is leaning back; always lean slightly forward. For safety alone, I always ride my pony-guy with the crotch of my jeans pressed fully up against the back of his neck. Doing that not only gives me stability but enables me to have better (or full) control over the pony-guy. In my opinion, it's optional whether the rider tucks his (or her) feet in behind the pony's ribs. I sometimes ride that way but I also enjoy riding with my legs hanging loose. Doing the latter can increase the pressure on the back of the pony's neck. But personally, I like the sensation of shoulder-riding a pony-guy that way. On the subject of a rider's weight, I'm 11 stones (154 pounds - or even a bit more!) and my pony-guy is a mere 10 stones (140 pounds) but he manages to carry me and has given me some fantastic rides. To be honest, I rather enjoy mounting his shoulders (I stand on a fallen tree truck or something similar) and feeling his shoulders sagging down as I settle astride him. I guess I might have a slight sadistic streak somewhere in my makeup because I enjoy riding him around over and over again until he's gets really exhausted. But he's a great pony and one of the best (despite his age - 60!)
I live near the coast in southern England. There a long fairly deserted sandy beach near the town of Bournemouth called Hengistbury Head. I'd like to shoulder-ride a strong and willing pony-guy along the full length which is about 3/4 mile. Any offers?
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Checkmateguy, I had alreaddy carried a guy 3/4 of a mile (1,2km) and that guy was 185lbs! It lasted for a little more then 20 minutes. So your 155lbs should be no problem! My rider in Netherlands (Frank) rides me always close to my neck with his legs freely hanging in front of me. Normaly I don“t hold them. My arms are free for pendling like a normal walk, without a rider! Thats a great feeling to carry him! Think it could be the same with you! ![]()
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We could do with a lot more guys like you around. Get yourself cloned, please!
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manbackrider wrote:
I got a chance to ride "heavylifter" who I met through this site, the other evening. We went to the beach after dark, when it is pretty much deserted, and we really didn't get close to any other people although there were a few at a distance. HL gave me two rides, which were both several minutes long, although I didn't think to time them.
HL is an excellent carrier! I was wondering how we would accomplish the "mounting" problem, but that turned out to be no problem at all: he just crouched down, I positioned myself over his shoulders and he lifted me up. Just like that: worked perfectly the first time, no problem. It seemed like it wasn't difficult at all for him to do that, although it must take a lot of muscle power to do it. He was also extremely steady, so that I had no problem maintaining my balance and never even thought about the possibility of falling. (I've had a couple carriers where that was about all I COULD think about. With them, the unstable behavior often started right after mounting). We didn't end either ride because we had to. HL was not even breathing hard. He said he was not tired but was hot, and he was sweating a bit, but really not that much considering it was quite warm and humid.
My biggest complaint as the rider was that my weight seemed a little too far back, forcing me to work a bit to keep the top part of my legs extended so i wouldn't fall backwards. And that was the biggest reason for me wanting to end the rides when we did. I think I'll try sitting a bit closer to his neck on my next ride (which we have planned). Assuming that we solve that problem, I'm definitely going to push for a longer ride! HL is definitely capable of it (and I'll time our next ride). Incidentally, it has to be more work for the carrier to walk on sand, which sinks under his feet, although HL didn't seem to have any problem with that at all. I don't think you could ask for a better mount: strong, really well balanced, and completely steady and competent.
I think that HL would probably rather have a female rider, and I like the "rider in control" aspect whereas I think HL really just enjoys having someone on his shoulders, so there is a bit of negotiation to find what works best for both. But It was awesome just as it was, and I'm really looking forward to our next ride!
I got the chance to ride him today as well, and I got to say he's an amazing carrier.
He was passing through and could only stay for a short while, but boy did he make me happy giving me 3 great rides.
Mounting him was very easy indeed, he just crouched down in front of me, I positioned myself over his shoulders, sat down and he lifted me up gently.
The first ride took 3 minutes walking from the parking lot to my cabin, where we had some coffee. After that I took him into the woods and rode him for 11 minutes straight. He wasn't even breathing any harder noticeably, but had to stop because of the pain in his shoulders from carrying my weight.
After only a minute or so, he asked if I liked to get up again. Yes please!
He carried me for another 6 minutes until we reached my cabin again.
He let me dismount him after every ride just the way I like it best, by crouching down slowly until my feet gently touched the ground and I could step off. Very easy and comfortable for the rider.
The actual riding was also highly comfortable and therefor enjoyable, due to his strength and stamina. Very well balanced and confident carrier. And capable of offering his rider mounting and dismounting in the most comfortable way. I felt like a king. A rider couldn't ask for more. Thanks again Heavylifter!
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Awesome, frenk. That was a fantastic, detailed review and I just loved reading it. heavylifter, you rock! but it's too bad your an ocean away! If you come to the East coast USA, do write to me. Would love shoulder riding you.
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checkmateguy wrote:
All I'd say is that when you're on someone's shoulders you have to actually ride the person. That's to say, just like a jockey takes control of his or her mount so a shoulder-rider must do that same - take control and RIDE the pony. The best shoulder-riding, as far as I have discovered, is to sit well forward on the pony's shoulders, with your crotch pressed tightly up to the back of the pony's neck, with your thighs sloping down and maybe crouching or leaning your body slightly forward. The way NOT to shoulder-ride a pony is to sit too far back on the pony's shoulders. This is how a lot of female riders ride their ponies - maybe because they are too shy to press their crotches firmly up to the back of their ponies' necks, i.e. they're coy. The big problem with riding a pony that way is that the rider is likely to fall off backwards. Essentially, successful and enjoyable shoulder-riding is all about confidence - get on that pony, take charge of him or her, and RIDE the beast of burden! Likewise, a good pony-guy/pony-girl will respond to a confident shoulder-rider. It's really a two-way thing - the pony wants the enjoyment of feeling the rider's weight on his or her shoulders and being controlled by the rider. In turn, the jockey wants the enjoyment of feeling human flesh under him or her, carrying his or her weight and following his or her orders as to what to do and how to do it. On those two latter points, and to get the best out of your pony, the carrying and use of a whip is recommended or maybe the wearing and use of heel-spurs - am I joking? Maybe and maybe not!
I completely agree with most of this and particularly that the rider should be in charge of the carrier/pony. To me this means the rider being fully supported and "sitting" as much as is possible on the carrier rather than having your legs resting on his shoulders and your buttocks hanging without support. Requiring the carrier to sometimes sacrifice some of his comfort for the sake of the riders comfort is as much a part of the service as submitting to the will of the rider and the muscular strain involved. For the sake of the ride at least, the carrier should regard the person sitting on him as a superior and the rider view the person beneath him/her as a beast of burden , at least for the duration of the ride. I don't mean that any excessive cruelty need be inflicted unless that is the nature of the relationship of course. But the relative position of the superior (sitting) and the inferior (carrying his/her weight) is necessary to some extent for the enjoyment of the rider and sometimes the carrier as well.
As for the position of the "crotch" or genitalia of the rider, I see no embarrassment for either as being an issue. The location of the genitalia is obvious regardless of who or what someone is sitting on and what either party enjoys or doesn't in regard to such contact is a personal matter that may or may not be shared , depending on the relationship of the people involved.
Assuming everyone involved is an adult, whether stimulation occurs when sitting on someone's neck or a bicycle seat should be a matter of complete indifference to anyone other than the person experiencing it.
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Hey Audrey..
You seem to be a Perfect Rider like many others on the group here.
I also believe as a Horse that its the Rider who has to control every scenario of Ride.
As a horse, my duty is to just obey his / her commands.
If a Rider sits on my shoulder comfortably and ride me fully. I will be more than happy and I feel all carriers will be.
Hope to be ridden by you sometime Audrey..
Thanks
Audreyb wrote:
checkmateguy wrote:
All I'd say is that when you're on someone's shoulders you have to actually ride the person. That's to say, just like a jockey takes control of his or her mount so a shoulder-rider must do that same - take control and RIDE the pony. The best shoulder-riding, as far as I have discovered, is to sit well forward on the pony's shoulders, with your crotch pressed tightly up to the back of the pony's neck, with your thighs sloping down and maybe crouching or leaning your body slightly forward. The way NOT to shoulder-ride a pony is to sit too far back on the pony's shoulders. This is how a lot of female riders ride their ponies - maybe because they are too shy to press their crotches firmly up to the back of their ponies' necks, i.e. they're coy. The big problem with riding a pony that way is that the rider is likely to fall off backwards. Essentially, successful and enjoyable shoulder-riding is all about confidence - get on that pony, take charge of him or her, and RIDE the beast of burden! Likewise, a good pony-guy/pony-girl will respond to a confident shoulder-rider. It's really a two-way thing - the pony wants the enjoyment of feeling the rider's weight on his or her shoulders and being controlled by the rider. In turn, the jockey wants the enjoyment of feeling human flesh under him or her, carrying his or her weight and following his or her orders as to what to do and how to do it. On those two latter points, and to get the best out of your pony, the carrying and use of a whip is recommended or maybe the wearing and use of heel-spurs - am I joking? Maybe and maybe not!
I completely agree with most of this and particularly that the rider should be in charge of the carrier/pony. To me this means the rider being fully supported and "sitting" as much as is possible on the carrier rather than having your legs resting on his shoulders and your buttocks hanging without support. Requiring the carrier to sometimes sacrifice some of his comfort for the sake of the riders comfort is as much a part of the service as submitting to the will of the rider and the muscular strain involved. For the sake of the ride at least, the carrier should regard the person sitting on him as a superior and the rider view the person beneath him/her as a beast of burden , at least for the duration of the ride. I don't mean that any excessive cruelty need be inflicted unless that is the nature of the relationship of course. But the relative position of the superior (sitting) and the inferior (carrying his/her weight) is necessary to some extent for the enjoyment of the rider and sometimes the carrier as well.
As for the position of the "crotch" or genitalia of the rider, I see no embarrassment for either as being an issue. The location of the genitalia is obvious regardless of who or what someone is sitting on and what either party enjoys or doesn't in regard to such contact is a personal matter that may or may not be shared , depending on the relationship of the people involved.
Assuming everyone involved is an adult, whether stimulation occurs when sitting on someone's neck or a bicycle seat should be a matter of complete indifference to anyone other than the person experiencing it.
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