Ultimate shoulder rides

This is a very good invitation to a discussion and I'm worried there'll be to many answers like "Ooooh yes, I coulden't agree more, I'd love you to enslave me and ride me hard!" :>

I agree with what You wrote. There is some actual proof for validity of this view. From my experience if there is two people who know each other, and one of them is always the rider and the other is always the carrier, the rider will likely be getting more dominant with experience.

But I'm wondering how this can be made to work in real life, without no relationship, when as you said two people are just having consensual fun. In the basic pairing; a girl is riding a boy, the rider's attitude is crucial to the experience. She must have enough charisma and character to take at least some leadership. So I guess She probably needs to be a self conscious rider who seeks a carrier to dominate even just a little. If He is the one who asks Her to ride him, She is often so bashful about sitting on somebody... She can't fully relax and enjoy.

There is of course a middling solution too: both the rider and the carrier just understand each other perfectly they're too great friends to get into any sort of dom sub relationship even only with riding and they are simply having fun; usually this case involves piggyback riding and they both know it's not to be taken too seriously.

Misiulo:   Various types of  rider/carrier  situations  would of course have  exceptions  to my  premise.
Cases of  brief rides  with  two people who are playing  a  temporary  game such as a  short  piggyback  ride or even  a beach or swimming pool chicken fight  would be  examples of exceptions.

My  reference was  to situations where  the rider and  carrier  regularly  pursue this activity.  possibly even  in  cases where one  coerces the other  into  the activity.   The  carrier bearing the weight of the rider is  performing the  most  obvious  visible  service  from  the  inferior  position. This is  true  whether he  enjoys  his/her  servitude and  position or  not.  The rider  is relieved of his or her own  effort in moving  from place to  place by  sitting  on  top of the  carrier  in  the superior  position.
As  such, the  carrier  is the vehicle  or  beast of  burden while the  rider is  the driver .
If  I  were riding  on  a  horse or  in  a  vehicle as  the only one in that  vehicle, I  wouldn't be  just sitting  and  letting the car or the horse  find it's own  direction  or stop  and  go  as it chooses.
I'm not implying that a  consensual  carrier  should by  definition  be confined  to being  purely a beast of  burden or  and  mindless  object,  but rather that  the  obvious  superior vs  inferior  positions  be  observed  and followed accordingly.
I  certainly  couldn't force  a  man  to  carry  me  except  by using some external  duress such  as blackmail or perhaps at  gun  point ,both  obviously beyond the scope of this discussion.
Consent  is  clearly  implied  from either  position in  such  matters.

As  for the  possible  bashfulness of some  ladies about  sitting on  a  man's shoulders,  clearly some women  are  somewhat sexually repressed  on the subject of such  contact.  Some  other's  would  avoid sitting on  a  man  because she  would  be embarrassed about  the  man  finding  her  to  heavy.
I  find the latter somewhat unfortunate  in that she  deprives  herself  of  something she and her potential carrier  might enjoy. A  male rider   is  usually heavier on  average and more often  indifferent to putting  the  burden on the carrier.
I'm  not  large  myself and my  views  might  be  slanted in  such issues because of that. I  also  tend to be  dominant in my  relationships ,  though  shoulder  riding is  rather occasional  for  me  and I don't have  a regular  carrier.  However I  think  a  man  should be able to withstand a  woman's  weight  even if he finds it  somewhat uncomfortable.  But this is  not a matter or  gender  bias. A  male rider should be  afforded  exactly the same  service from  his  carrier  including  a female carrier  assuming she is able to  comply.

During the period of my most frequent shoulder riding, rides would occur with a good friend who happened to have the same passions that I do.  Once the sun went down, we would head outside (he lived in a wooded area with no close neighbors).  In addition to shoulder riding, my friend was very much into fitness, and so about 90% of our rides had me as the rider and him as the carrier.  In this setting, I would often take the role of something like a coach, sitting on his shoulders as he performed squats and lunges, and riding him around the perimeter of his house for a couple of laps.  So I agree with you, because this was a lot of fun for me, but at the same time, he wasn't entirely submissive.  Often he would get ideas for an exercise and ask me to climb on his shoulders, rather than me having to always direct him.

@Audreyb

As a male riding men regularly, I can say that, for me, 50% of the pleasure of shoulder riding comes from the feeling of being carried. Sitting on top, knowing and feeling the guy beneath me has to work hard to give me a comfortable and satisfactory ride is a lot of fun.
The other 50% comes from dominating the carrier.
I prefer to ride men in the same way as I ride my horse. So, being in control of speed, direction and duration. It is fun to explore how long I can ride the carrier and to push them a bit, all of course within reasonable limits.

Not all men I have ridden liked to be dominated in that way, some of them just liked to give rides as a form of exercise, some just liked to impress me with their strength and one just liked acting as a porter.

As opposed to (most?) women, I'm unselfconscious about my weight and indeed indifferent to putting my weight on the carrier, even if I'm heavier. In that case they just have to work a little bit harder, don't they?

That is to say You have got a sadistic streak in You? Do You think a stronger carrier is a better carrier?

I think most men wouldn't waste any time for thinking "OMG, She is soo heavy!" meaning less attractive.  With the possible exception of some extreme cases of course, a man would normally be attracted to the woman whom He is giving a ride to and if She is heavier than expected, He would probably rather consider himself too weak then Her too fat. While under You, we desire to prove ourselves to You with all our heart. And a woman's weight is pleasant to carry.

I'm somewhat intrigued by this question; just how long can a strong carrier carry a typical rider. I think the dominant attitude of the Rider can be a significant factor in making the carrier do His (Or sometimes Hers) best.

Misiulo:  I  don't consider myself sadistic and  causing  someone  pain  in  itself doesn't excite  me.
I  am  assertive and dominant  and it's  my  nature to be in  control of every situation when  it is  possible and practical.

The desire of some  people to  be carriers, bearing the weights of  another person  sitting on top of  them is  at least somewhat  masochistic  as well.  I  do  not mean  to  judge anyone's  motivation  but  the position  is  clearly implied  and  I  know  that some of  the  men  and boys who offered  or requested  me  and  other  women to ride or  sit on his shoulders were  interested in the  contact,  the  thighs on his neck and  face  etc. I  have  no  doubt at all  that  men who  prefer  men  riding  their shoulders have  similar desires.

In  that  the rider is  also  performing a  service  to  the carrier in  fulfilling the carriers  desire, I  feel that the  rider is entitled to expect  the best effort  the  person under her or  him  can provide.
The rider  should  not be  overly  concerned about the  carriers strain or  reasonable  pain  and  expect or even  demand comfort  and service  beyond  the  carrier's  desires.  I  can't see  any  reason why the rider  shouldn't  enjoy or  want to  enjoy the same service from  a  less  willing  carrier.

Also,  the rider  is in  something of a  vulnerable position when sitting on  the carrier's shoulders.
The carrier's walking gate might  cause  discomfort,  the shoulders  might be  thin or  narrow making sitting on them  uncomfortable  and  the carrier  might  lose  his  balance, or attempt to move  the rider  into a position  that is   more comfortable for the carrier  than  for the rider.
I  would  view these things  as  unacceptable .  The  boney  or  narrow shoulders  would  obviously  not  be correctable  but  the rider  could  demand that the carrier assume  a  position that  offers  more support.  In  any  consensual rider/carrier situation  where riding shoulders is the  object,  I feel  that the carrier should  perform  as  much  in the manner of a beast of  burden  as is  reasonable  to  the  situation  and  relationship. Not to  cause  the  carrier  pain or discomfort but  simply accept that it  may occur.

It would be interesting to find out what Audreyb is,it's profile only states that it is a member,perhaps it is amphoteric,it would be very useful if members would a little more information on their profile.

Fan_of_MissP wrote:

Miss Audreyb,

Can I be your carrier ? Where do you live ?

Fan, I'm surprised You are still looking for a rider, after being ridden by MissP! :>

checkmateguy:  In that I  have  only participated in this activity  as the rider, I  have no experience concerning  the strain  or  motivation of  the  carrier. I'm  aware that some are  masochistic while  others are  motivated  by other  desires  and/or  conditions.
Overall, I  find myself  rather indifferent to  what  the carrier might feel, whether  pleasure  or  discomfort. Obviously serious  pain for the  carrier could be problematic  for the rider  but beyond that,  I  believe the rider should be only  concerned  about  his/her  own  comfort and  reason/enjoyment of the activity.  Since the term  selfish  was  used, I see  the  rider  being  selfish  as  acceptable  since  the  motivation of the  carrier  may be equally selfish in  enjoying  the submissive  position.  While any given rider  might find any  number of  positions on  a carrier more or less  comfortable, in that I  maintain  that the rider  should  be  in charge,  some  experimenting involving  sitting on  a  stationary  carrier would be  a worthy investment in time.  Clearly  we  wouldn't  engage in this activity at all  if we  didn't like  sitting on  shoulders  and of  course every  carriers shoulders are  different and offer  different  areas of support.  I  prefer  to  actually sit  rather than  just straddle . I  don't want  my  weight completely on my  thighs  since this  becomes  uncomfortable  after a short time, particularly on  a  moving  carrier.  To  sit  comfortably I  need  to  sit  so my  bottom is supported to  some degree.   In  several  cases  this required  having the carriers head  facing  downward  so that I'm  sitting  on  both his neck  and shoulders.  This may not be as  comfortable for the carrier  but as  my  premise at the start of this discussion stated,  the  rider  should  be  in charge of this activity.
Clearly  anatomical differences  of the  male  vs  female  anatomy might  very  well  require male riders to  sit on  the  carrier  with  different priorities  of  comfort  and you  might  enjoy sitting on  your underling as  much as you enjoy the  actual  ride.  One of my  male friends  who participates in  shoulder riding  far more often than I  do  has a decidedly  submissive voluntary  slave that he  rides  more or less  exclusively. My  friend makes  no  secret of the  fact that he finds  enjoyment in simply  sitting on his submissive ,riding him on  all fours   and  sometimes just as a  convenience.
I'm  not implying that my  friends  relationship or  motivation is common  to  everyone  who enjoys  riding on  shoulders,  but  I  doubt that he  is  unique in  his enjoyment  either.

bernager:   I  wasn't  insulted at all. I  didn't feel  that it was implied that I was  a selfish  person in general  but  rather  that some selfishness is implied  in  most  mutually agreeable activities  for  both parties involved. I  certainly wouldn't enjoy riding on  someone's shoulders  if I  were  constantly  concerned about his strain  or discomfort.  Such things are part of  his role in  this activity  and  in  the service he  is  performing.  As a  rider,  I'm  not  sitting on  him  to  cause him pain  or  specifically  enjoying his  pain if he is experiencing it. The carrier  generally  chose  his position  either  because  he enjoys carrying  someone on  his shoulders, or   has  other  motivation  for  performing this  act.
With  my  ex husband  for example  his  motivation  was  his  ego  and  his desire to  please  me which  had  his  self-interests at  heart.

I  have thought about the subject of a  previous  post ,mostly out of amusement,  concerning a  situation of involuntary  carriers  or  those who  perform this  service  for  a  living. I  refer to  the  Korean  salt gathering  slaves but  any  such situation where  a  carrier  performs this service without enjoying his  position or  even  contrary to  his desires.  Without  dwelling on  the  details of  such an  arrangement,  I imagine that perhaps  a  'Rental' situation  where  perhaps  tourist might avail  themselves of such  a  convenience or  conveyance .
In  contemplating this  I  considered  the question  of  whether  a  riders  attitude  concerning  the  unwilling carrier should  be  different  than  the one I  expressed  in  the original  subject.
I  concluded  that  at least  for  me,  it  shouldn't be.   In  such an  arrangement,  I (the tourist)paid for the service,  just  as I  might  pay for  a horse  rental or  a  ride in  a  taxi  or even  a  plumber for that matter. The carrier would still be  motivated by  his own  self interests  of providing  himself  with  food  and  shelter  and he  achieved  this by carrying  people . He is in the same  position performing  exactly the same  task  whether  the  person he is  carrying enjoys  sitting on  him or simply chooses  not to  walk.  That is  at least  how  I  see such an  arrangement.

Hi Sir.

I also share the same dream like yours.

I wish to be trained by my rider.

bernager wrote:

in my dreams, I would like to offer my services to a tourist rider for a day. Maybe, the customer of a luxury hotel. She could rent me as we rent a bike for day. That would be a comfortable and original way to do tourism (for her). My boss would give some recomandations to the rider (5 minutes of rest every 45 minutes max. for example). I would have my head  facing  downward  so that my rider could sitting on  both my neck and shoulders and have a comfortable position. I would be just a a beast of  burden paid to do a job. The rider wouldn't be concerned by my pain and strain. Some times my rider would come down to visit a place, have a drink, savour an ice. And after she would be happy to come-back on my shoullders to move without any effort. The efforts, the tiredness, ans the pain would be my role of underling. I would transport her to a luxurious restaurant for the lunch break. I would eat my apple sat on a bench while she would eat delicious dishes in the restaurant. After her coffee she would continue her ride quietly on my shoulders. Of return at my boss either she would give me a small tip or she would complain about my slowness and my pay would be decreased... But it's only a dream...

However if AudreyB or another rider wants to enjoy a pleasant, comfortable and effortlessly ride in Paris, I would be delighted to offer my shoulders and neck free of charge :-)

bernager wrote:

However if AudreyB or another rider wants to enjoy a pleasant, comfortable and effortlessly ride in Paris, I would be delighted to offer my shoulders and neck free of charge :-)

@bernager
Would you offer the same to male riders by any chance? Paris is only a few hours away from where I live and I must admit (to my shame) that I never visited your capitol. Would be great if you could show me the city from your shoulders.

@bernager

I am 1,83 and 83 Kg. Experienced shoulder rider with good balance, I am sure that helps when carrying me. Have you seen my riding videos?

@Frenk, I saw your videos, you are a very good rider !
I would be ready to try to carry you if you come to Paris and to give you a ride near Eiffel Tower for example.

@Frenk I know very well the Centre Pompidou, it deserves to be visited.
For rides the "Champs de Mars" in front of the Eiffel Tower is nice.
Why not this summer, it's a good idea.

On the subject of salt workers (or former salt workers) who live on the islands off south Korean. If they were employed (or redeployed) as human ponies for tourists, who would ride around on their shoulders, the important point is that if these rental human ponies did it on a daily basis they would almost certainly build up their physical strength and stamina so that they would be able to gives rides throughout the day.

The opportunity for tourists to hire human ponies and have rides on their shoulders would also be a unique attraction in this new would-be tourist destination. The most realistic and money-producing way to market these human pony rides would be to offer them as short rides. Most tourists would probably just want to either find out what it was like to have a ride on a human pony's shoulders or do so just to have their photo taken so that they can show it to others when they get back home, i.e. 'Hey, look at me on that south Korean Island! That's where this photo was taken of me having a ride on one of those human ponies they have there! I nearly fell off but it was fun!'

For short 'photo opportunity' rides, the tourists could be charged a few Dollars. I think it would be very popular with young to middle-age female riders. And with visiting members of the 'Ultimate Shoulder Ride Community.' This is a great business idea!

I have been lucky enough these last three years to have had a regular pony to ride (I'm talking about a human pony, of course). During that time, I've had some great rides. As a result, I regard myself as an expert rider of human ponies. After the first few rides (yes, I fell off about three times), I achieved perfect balance. The secret of doing that is to ride your pony with confidence just like riding a real pony or horse where the rider sits firmly in control on the saddle and 'rides' the pony or horse. By 'rides the pony' I mean take charge of the pony and ride the pony so that you are in charge.

I would happily ride a south Korean human pony if one was available. The only problem I can foresee is that south Koreans tend to be rather small and thin. If I could pick a human pony, I'd pick a tall muscular African Negro. The reason for that choice is that he'd have the stamina and endurance (hopefully) to give me a long and enjoyable (even gratifying) shoulder ride. But, in the meantime, I'm more than happy to continue riding my regular pony who, in my opinion (and in the opinion of other members of this community who have rode him) is one of the best human ponies.

I'm a shoulder rider although I have seen videos of men and women who are riding on another person's back while that person is down on all-fours, that is to say, crawling around on his (it usually is a 'his') hands and knees.

The only time I've rode around like that on someone's back was as a child (aged about 4 or 5). I could try this sort of ride but it looks quite hard on the carrier and I don't think it would be very exciting for me. Shoulder riding is quite different. When I'm sat up astride a 'pony's' shoulders, I feel totally in charge. I feel in control of the pony. The feeling is just the same as being sat in the saddle of a horse or real pony. The horse or pony is there to carry you and follow your orders. You're the rider... and you ride the pony - great! If you're riding a human pony that has a reasonable amount of strength and stamina, you can ride him like a real horse and get him to walk, go faster, turn or stop by using your thighs to squeeze his neck/head as well as giving the pony voice commands. Riding around on a pony's shoulders this way and training him is most enjoyable.

Dear Audreyb,

It seems obvious to me that a rider would enjoy more if he has full control. But here we should not forget that the mount need not be always a masochist and practically this is the case more often than not. So always expecting full control is not a good idea. So a rider needs to be opportunistic about his behavior. I am not sadist enough to love any physical damage to anybody but love the feeling of somebody struggling to carry my weight under my complete control.

My ex girlfriend loved riding and sitting, but I never encouraged her because I myself hate giving ride. She used to sit on my lap the traditional way occasionally and this was the only way she ever sat on me. However I spent much more time sitting on her in all possible ways... I mean on her back, on her stomach, astride her lap facing her and hugging her. She herself being aware about the pleasure of sitting on somebody, knew how much fun I was having just by sitting on her and she always co operated. I didn't really desire any dominance that time. The fact that she was bearing the discomfort for my pleasure was a good enough feeling for me.

I too have dreamt about this with open eyes. I often think about it in railway station where porters carry heavy loads. Why porters don't carry human. Of cource they can charge higher and weight will almost be same that they usually carry. After all there would be so many people like me who think why walk whey you can ride. But unfortunately it would be considered inhuman. Why don't people like you fight for your rights so that life becomes more comfortable for me. The hotel idea is good too and bending neck is the best idea as not getting enough space to sit on has always been my concern regarding shoulder ride.

bernager wrote:

in my dreams, I would like to offer my services to a tourist rider for a day. Maybe, the customer of a luxury hotel. She could rent me as we rent a bike for day. That would be a comfortable and original way to do tourism (for her). My boss would give some recomandations to the rider (5 minutes of rest every 45 minutes max. for example). I would have my head  facing  downward  so that my rider could sitting on  both my neck and shoulders and have a comfortable position. I would be just a a beast of  burden paid to do a job. The rider wouldn't be concerned by my pain and strain. Some times my rider would come down to visit a place, have a drink, savour an ice. And after she would be happy to come-back on my shoullders to move without any effort. The efforts, the tiredness, ans the pain would be my role of underling. I would transport her to a luxurious restaurant for the lunch break. I would eat my apple sat on a bench while she would eat delicious dishes in the restaurant. After her coffee she would continue her ride quietly on my shoulders. Of return at my boss either she would give me a small tip or she would complain about my slowness and my pay would be decreased... But it's only a dream...

However if AudreyB or another rider wants to enjoy a pleasant, comfortable and effortlessly ride in Paris, I would be delighted to offer my shoulders and neck free of charge :-)

Correct feeling u have.

But I have one question, why is that there are so few females interested in riding. You van also check the number of female members here.

Human horses like me don't get even a single girl or lady in their life which can ride them fully.

Audreyb wrote:

Dear  Lovetoride

  I'm an  assertive person  by  nature  but  I'm  not  implying that a master/slave relationship is required or  even  desirable  for  most riders  and carriers. Obviously  pushing a  carrier  until  he  drops   or  dreads the task of carrying the rider  in the future  is  counterproductive .The carrier should  either  enjoy  his  position or  at  least be willing  to  endure it out of  some degree of  self interest.

However, I do  believe that  for shoulder riding to be enjoyed or even practical,  the  person  sitting on  the carrier's  shoulders  should be in  control and  assert that  control even if  it  exceeds  the  carrier's desires.  The  carrier's  position  by it's  very  nature implies  some  degree  of  submission  and  endurance. If  the  carrier doesn't  take the rider where she/he wants to  go, even if it's stationary, or  the rider  isn't  comfortable sitting on  him,  there is  little point to the activity. 
Your  enjoyment  of sitting on your  girlfriend in  various  positions isn't  unusual. 
In  every  relationship one person  invariably  dominates  and  being  seated on someone's  body ,even if  it  causes some  discomfort  is an overt expression of  that  dominance.  Clearly,  beyond a  situation of two people  fighting  with  the intension of  subduing or  hurting each other, the  position of sitter and seat  are  mutually agreed  to or  the relationship  would simply  end.
I  know  that some moralist would disagree  but   if  I were to  think that  sitting on a  man  was inherently wrong,  then  perhaps sitting on  a  horse would  be  morally wrong.  Should I then  extrapolate and  assume  that sitting on  a  chair is  wrong as well?   
I  believe  one should  follow their  inclinations in  a  sane and reasonable  manner and not  judge others  who  follow  theirs.

Very nice and correct answer

One more thing. Do u come to India??

Audreyb wrote:

Trigger.

I  can't say with  complete authority  every  possible reason a woman might refuse to sit or ride on  a  man  or  the  reasons of  any  given  woman concerning any  given  man. 
Obviously some ladies may  simply  have  no interest in  the activity  but I  think that  more see  the  position  as  being pseudo intimacy,  making contact  with the  man's body and her  genitalia. I  would personally find this reasoning  rather silly in that the same  contact is  involved in  everything  we  sit on  from animals to inanimate objects.
I don't  consider sitting on  a  donkey's back  to be intimate and I  very  much  doubt the  donkey prefers to  be  sat  upon.   Obviously a  donkey is a  more  practical beast of  burden  but  assumed intimate  contact  not withstanding,  I would rather  sit  on  a  man  than  an  animal, consensual or  otherwise.

If  a woman assumes she is being  used to  fulfill a  man's fantasy or  fetish, she  may  feel  that she is being  objectified   and  find  it  undesirable. She  wants  to  be wanted,  desired  and/or respected   and not  the temporary object of someone's  fantasy.  This  happens in  various ways in dominant/submissive  relationships    where the submissive  person  dominates  from  the submissive  position, often  demanding  to be used,  humbled or in  extreme  cases  beaten or tortured  by  the dominant  person .   Having been in  the  dominant  role with that  kind of  submissive person, I  found it taxing and  annoying more often than  not.

A  woman's weight  might also be a  factor.  Even  very  heavy women who are  very much  aware of  their  size  still  want to  imagine  themselves  as  feminine  and  petit.
For  some larger ladies, having a  man suffer and strain beneath  her weight   reminds her that  she is  simply  not the image  of the  feminine ideal.
Interestingly, one  lady  I'm  very  close to  is  rather  the  opposite of this .
She  is  quite  large  (250lbs)  and loves sitting on  men.  She is  quite  lovely and has  no  problem in  attracting  men  who  like  plus sized  women.  She  also  belongs to  a  singles club  for plus sized women  and  their  admirers .  I have at  various times  witnessed her sitting on men's  backs  for a  pony ride  as well as  laps,  chests, stomachs  etc.  without  ever  damaging any of them. I  have  not  witnessed  her  sitting on  anyone's shoulders  and of course  never asked if  she has. None of the  men  I  have  seen  her with  appeared up to this task.

As for why  so  few  women become  involved with  this subject,  I  think  it's  because most  view  the  topic as a  male  fetish  and  are  more  likely to  read here than  get involved.  The subjects here  do  have a  decidedly male slant. However,  please don't assume that  women  don't  like sitting on  men  for any  number of reasons. Most  simply  prefer  that  it  be  their idea  and  spontaneous.

Ok no issues
Whts ur age. Weight and do u have any permanent horse there

Audreyb wrote:

Trigger.

I have never  been to  India  and I have  no plans to travel  outside the  United States  anytime soon.

quite good exp..

well i think you are a female.

What i have felt is that shoulder riding or all 4s riding, have always given women respect and laugh and happiness.

i have never seen any women, who has not liked it.
but they dont come in open to express or experience this.

Well i would request you , if you can push some more females to join this.

Thanks.

Audreyb wrote:

Trigger:

I'm  32 yrs old,  5ft 2 in  tall  and weigh 133 lbs. as of this  AM.

I  do  not  have  a "permanent" or regular  "horse" or  carrier  and  I  don't  pursue  this activity on  anything like a regular  basis. For  me  it's an occasional activity  and  it  was  purely  by  chance that  I  happened  to have  a  male  friend who persuaded me  to accompany  him on  several  outings last summer  and early fall. Both of the  carriers at that time were submissive  men that served him.

My  experience and  some of the  opinions I  expressed  here are  based  on  those  outings.  The  man  who  carried  me  simply  didn't like  being  put to  the task  and though he didn't complain openly,  it was rather clear that  he would have  preferred carrying a  male rider.   Because  of  my assertive  disposition  and  feeling that  his  reluctance was  something of an  affront to  my  gender, I  treated my  carrier as  I would any  beast of  burden.  I  wasn't  cruel  to  him or  abusive in  any way. But  I  did  firmly  direct  him  and  felt  no  remorse about being  a  burden  on him.
In  fairness, I  didn't push him  any harder than my  friend pushed  his carrier.

Obviously  that  was  not the first  time  I  had sat  upon someone's shoulders.
It was however the first time as  an  adult that I  had ridden  on what  amounted to a less than  willing human horse.

Because of this exchange of  ideas  here,  I recently ask a somewhat submissive older  man to let  me sit on his shoulders .This was  indoors  however  and it was  clear  that  he wasn't up to the  task soon  after  I  sat on him.  He only just  managed to  stand  up at all.   Being somewhat unhappy with his  own  performance, he   asked  to try  carrying  me  on  all fours.   To  spare his ego  and  because it was  harmless  fun, I  agreed  but  I  sat on him sidesaddle just  behind his  shoulder blades.  His  back  sagged quite  a  bit  but he  manage to  make a full  circuit of  my  living room .
I  found it  rather amusing , rather like sitting on  a  mobile   bench. When  he  asked me to  get off,  I  noticed his face was  flushed but  he said  he enjoyed  it and  perhaps  we  will  repeat this again  some  time.

Candidly, I love this thread.

I have enjoyed being a human horse for years, and I could spend a long time listing all the aspects that make it an exciting and fun activity...

But nothing beats a rider with the right attitude!

Of course I don't want to feel that my rider is willing to seriously damage me. But her comfort is paramount, and her desire to obtain a satisfactory performance should be well worth any reasonable strain and pain.

The simple fact that she has the courage to be demanding and - let's say it - a little selfish makes her deserve being completely in charge.