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#1 2012-12-30 07:54:31

lovetoride
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The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

I had the same doubt as many of us regarding the reaction of the person,
if I would ask for a ride and so I organized a pole around 10 years back.

The question was
“What was the reaction of your girlfriend when you asked for a shoulder ride on her for the first time?”

The maximum answer was that she was surprised by this strange demand, but agreed.

Though some did agree that their girlfriend plainly refused the request or demand.
And some were not surprised and gave ride and some were neither surprised by this demand nor they agreed to give ride.

I know that most of the members here are interested to know about the vice-versa situation, but this is the only experience I have and the only one I wish to have.

And as my friend Trigger rightly pointed out, it is way easy to make somebody sit on you than to sit on them and make them move!

Any comments most welcome.


.................The Rider................

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#2 2012-12-30 12:13:52

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Re: The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

hey..u have shifted to delhi..
can we plan some rides.

lovetoride wrote:

I had the same doubt as many of us regarding the reaction of the person,
if I would ask for a ride and so I organized a pole around 10 years back.

The question was
“What was the reaction of your girlfriend when you asked for a shoulder ride on her for the first time?”

The maximum answer was that she was surprised by this strange demand, but agreed.

Though some did agree that their girlfriend plainly refused the request or demand.
And some were not surprised and gave ride and some were neither surprised by this demand nor they agreed to give ride.

I know that most of the members here are interested to know about the vice-versa situation, but this is the only experience I have and the only one I wish to have.

And as my friend Trigger rightly pointed out, it is way easy to make somebody sit on you than to sit on them and make them move!

Any comments most welcome.


The Horse

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#3 2012-12-31 14:35:31

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Re: The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

Yes Trigger.
Certainly we can have rides.


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#4 2012-12-31 17:36:56

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Re: The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

I tend to believe that obtaining a SR is easier when it follows a basic logic : Either a STRONG person proposes a ride to a weaker one .. Or a WEAKER person requests a ride from a STRONGER one. And this works even better if the weaker one is a Female, as Females usually easily accept, or even take advantage of, their physical "weakness".
Now, a male requesting a ride from a Female certainly is the most difficult scenario ...

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#5 2013-01-01 17:42:58

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Re: The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

invoking the weak and the strong together is one scenario,but what would happen if both were strong-both demanding their rights-what then-words or even blows-or perhaps a sandoff in which neither party gets what they were after-no satisfaction.
Should then the weak only be pared with the strong-so that at least one party is satisfied.If both parties are weak what happens=tears,bloodshed-no mutual satisfaction-loss of interest.
Ergo the weak much be ruled by the strong-their backs bent and ridden


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#6 2013-01-02 15:29:08

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Re: The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

Thanks Equidum for your comments because I really love to read what you write.
Whether I agree with it or not is a secondary issue.

I totally agree with your 2nd and 3rd line.

You say, obtaining a SR is easier when it follows a basic logic :
Either a STRONG person proposes a ride to a weaker one .. Or a WEAKER person requests a ride from a STRONGER one.
But I think that the basic logic is that
either a person who ‘loves to give ride’ proposes a ride to a person who ‘loves to ride’ or
a person who ‘loves to ride’ requests a person who ‘loves to give ride’.
And this works even better if the two are of opposite sex!

If you did not like this sentence much, please replace the word ‘loves to give ride’ with ‘is a masochist’ and ‘loves to ride’ with ‘is a sadist’.
Perhaps you may agree with me more now, since this matches ‘your perception of the world’ more.

Here I would also like to add that the extra passion of one of them would compensate for the lack of interest of the other to some extent.
Hope you understand what I mean to say by this sentence.

Your response is most welcome.


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#7 2013-01-03 12:02:04

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Re: The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

@lovetoride

I totally agree with all what you say, and in both your formulations, btw .. Sure the maso/sadist terminology is easier to handle, and, as you rightfully point out, a lot more in line with my  own "perception of the world" ... A perception which  also seems to be  shared by our friend Mastadon, who says that "the weak must be ruled by the strong, their backs bent and ridden" ...
But where is that wonderful world where people are categorized as either maso or sadistic ? Which thus would allow good marriages, and possibly achieve the greatest possible average happiness on this planet ? For both the weak and the strong, of course !

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#8 2013-01-03 13:06:22

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Re: The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

Cool. I can say my own experience:

The most reaction I got from normal guys (not ponies or slaves) was a good reaction and it leaded to a good shoulder ride or a piggyback ride.
However, the fact behind it was mostly the feeling. I mostly asked guys who were either my boyfriend or were in love with me. In both cases they wanted to make me happy or impress me. So even if they really didn't like the idea, they always accepted. So I can say I kindda used (or better misused) their feelings. 90% of the times I asked a guy to carry me, they accepted. It even worked with dominant guys. The rest 10% didn't have a bad reaction but just tried to take it as a joke but not a serious request.
However, I never asked any girl to carry me because my weapon was always the feelings of a guy for me which does not exist in the same sex. So I don't know how they would really react if I ask them to do so.
And I guess the most difficult one is lovetoride situation. A guy asks a girl to carry him! I wouldn't dare if I were you wink because when I imagine: if a guy asks me to do that, I guess I would slap on his face big_smile
However, good job lovetoride

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#9 2013-01-06 08:44:51

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Re: The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

Yes Equidum!

Unfortunately we can only hope for it sad


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#10 2013-01-06 08:48:13

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Re: The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

Thanks Missp for your comments.

You are right.
Only a person who has feelings for you would give you a ride (if he is not a pony or masochist).
So even I have asked only to girls who have feelings for me.

And you are right, it worked even on dominant girls (in my case my ex-girlfriend).
And I am sure that even some of my friends (girls) would have given me rides in school and college
and some would have not, taking it as a joke as you rightly mentioned in your experience,
but unfortunately I did not get such favorable conditions.

I never asked any boy because I never really wanted to ride a male,
except if he is really interested to give me ride.
However I have really ridden some males at very young age.

I didn’t quite get your point of ‘slapping a guy’.
Do you mean that you would slap your friend or boyfriend too?
Because I don’t think any of my female friends would slap me for asking a ride.

If you are talking about stranger, then yes, it’s quite obvious.
On the first place I can’t even think of asking an unknown girl for a ride.

And thank you especially for the appreciation!


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#11 2013-01-08 20:07:06

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Re: The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

lovetoride wrote:

Thanks Missp for your comments.

You are right.
Only a person who has feelings for you would give you a ride (if he is not a pony or masochist).
So even I have asked only to girls who have feelings for me.

And you are right, it worked even on dominant girls (in my case my ex-girlfriend).
And I am sure that even some of my friends (girls) would have given me rides in school and college
and some would have not, taking it as a joke as you rightly mentioned in your experience,
but unfortunately I did not get such favorable conditions.

I never asked any boy because I never really wanted to ride a male,
except if he is really interested to give me ride.
However I have really ridden some males at very young age.

I didn’t quite get your point of ‘slapping a guy’.
Do you mean that you would slap your friend or boyfriend too?
Because I don’t think any of my female friends would slap me for asking a ride.

If you are talking about stranger, then yes, it’s quite obvious.
On the first place I can’t even think of asking an unknown girl for a ride.

And thank you especially for the appreciation!

The case for me is a bit different. Your female friends haven't had any bad reaction and probably won't because they are logical and they can easily decline if they don't like it... So don't worry and exclude me from the majority of people wink
To be honest, if my boyfriend ever asked for that, if I didn't slap him, I would hate him... because I belive giving a ride to someone is very humiliating and that's why I enjoy riding guys. And if my bf suggested such a thing, my femenism anger would mix with my sadistic attitude and would lead to a bad reaction...
Anyhow like I said, there are not a lot of sadists or extreme feminist like me, so keep on doing that and I wish you best of luck!

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#12 2013-01-13 05:34:38

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Re: The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

I completely understood your point Missp.
Thanks again for wishing me luck!


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#13 2013-01-13 19:04:09

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Re: The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

How many members of this forum have studied basic psychology? Those who have will know that who gives whom a shoulder ride and who carries whom does not depend on which person is a 'master' or 'slave' or which is a sadist or a mascohist. These terms are too extreme. Anyone who has carries another person on his or her shoulders will almost certainly know that they cannot properly be called either a slave or a masochist. The explanation is very simple.

It is that people generally can be divided into those who are either dominant and submissive. If you put two dominant people together in a relationship it is likely to end in disaster. A marriage or partnership in which both people are dominant means they are likely to argue because both want to dominate. Similarly, two submissive people in a marriage or partnership are likely to find that it does not last because the relationship becomes dull and boring.

In the context of shoulder riding, a submissive/passive female will happily and willingly give her male companion or friend a ride on her shoulders if she is physically strong enough to do that. If, by chance, she is in a relationship or is friendly with a male who is also submissive/passive, he is likely to not want to have a ride on her shoulders but would rather give her a ride. However, she, like him, would probably prefer to give him a ride. 

So it is not the extremes descriptions which are important, like describing ponies as masochists. Although, of course, there are ponies (usually pony-guys) who do enjoy being shoulder-rode by a person who will stay on their shoulders and ride them relentless until they literally drop. Most people do not fit into that extreme category. Instead, they enjoy giving another person a shoulder ride for fun, both for their own enjoyment and for the enjoyment of the person who is sat astride their shoulders. This kind of person has a personality that is passive or submissive. The opposite kind of person to a submissive person is one who likes to have a ride on someone else's shoulders and that sort of person is likely to have a dominant personality. When a submissive person is matched up with a dominant person you generally get a good relationship. Needless to say, in a wider context, beware of marrying someone who has the same submissive or dominant personality as you have. It just won't last!

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#14 2013-01-14 09:25:41

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Re: The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

@checkmateguy

I totally agree with you, Checkmateguy ! I also believe that the world is split in a 50/50 way as regards subs and doms, or whatever term is the most relevant ... Probably 80% in each category are just mildly sub or dom, sometimes hardly aware of their true orientation, which actually shows up in just a limited number of domains, like SR for instance, or during sexual intercourse ... But indeed it would be great if we could KNOW what we are, and what others are, so that marriages for instance have a better chance to be successful. Is that so difficult for 21st century science ?? I doubt it.

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#15 2013-01-14 17:24:54

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Re: The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

I agree with you two... just two add sth:
I have a friend who is psychologist... He was studying about these things for many years. He claimed that all people have some tendencies to be either submissive or dominant or even both. It might not be very significant or noticable for some ... On the other hand some people (like me) are in the extreme side who are defined as sadist and masochist. I believe it is true. All ppl are at lease a bit dom or sub. You should just find the right person who matches with you and you should not categorize all people who enjoy giving rides on their shoulders as maso or slaves, though needless to say, I would prefer if they are

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#16 2013-01-14 19:07:39

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Re: The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

In my experience and looking at requests by people on contact sites (e.g. craigslist), the majority of people seem to be submissive/passive; i.e. they prefer to be the passive partner in a relationship. In this respect, one amusing example (if that is the right word!) which you can see in everyday life is the bullied husband (who is usually an older guy) of a dominant and somewhat aggressive wife. You can see these couples in supermarkets where the wife in the partnership will say something to her husband such as: 'Go and fetch that NOW!' Or 'For goodness sake, you stupid man, put the (supermarket) basket in the rack - over THERE!' She will point out where he has to or should put the empty basket and he, in response, will meekly or quickly trot over to where he has to put the empty basket (much like a naughty little boy who has been told off by his mother). Observers (of human nature) like me tend to feel sorry for these kinds of guys yet they are perfectly happy about being bossed around by their dominant parners - so what can one say?

In the context of shoulder riding and in relation to those who prefer to carry and those who prefer to ride, another common misconception is that submissive/passive people are weak. Nothing could be further from the truth. I have known and see many people who could be described as submissive/passive and they have invariably been amazingly tough. Indeed, what makes them stand out is their toughness and stamina. Saying that, if a person is submissive/passive and they are enjoying what a dominant person is making them do, then they will not only willingly consent to what is happening but want it to continue so that they can fully enjoy the experience. Oddly, weirdly, amazingly, the biggest problem that submissive/passive people have is finding dominant people who will dominate them to the degree that they are seeking. Some like it mild and titillating whereas at the other extreme some like it strong and sadistic. The latter may (and probably would) appeal to missp!) Get down boy and let her ride you!

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#17 2025-07-25 18:05:35

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Re: The result of an old Poll regarding first time ride

Hi Guys,
I totally feel the same way, Checkmateguy. I think most people do lean slightly one way or the other—dominant or submissive—even if they’re not fully aware of it. For many, it only shows up in certain parts of life, like relationships or intimacy. It’s not always black and white. Wouldn’t it be incredible if we could really understand ourselves and each other in that way? Knowing who we are deep down could make things like love, marriage, and connection so much stronger. Feels like something we should have figured out by now. (New Window)

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