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#1 2013-05-17 22:54:08

tusk333
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1st ride of the season

I had fun today carrying my lady rider friend through some wooded trails.  She is a horseback riding instructor, but I'm her first human mount.  I've been chatting with her for over a year trying to get her to train me like a horse.  I envy the non - verbal connection a horse has with a mount.  How the horse gets to feel the cues delivered by leg, hand, seat, whip and spur.  Ah, to be a horse!

Today we experimented with positioning for her to "find balance and security atop such a narrow seat".  This was her quote and I was happy that she continued to ride and experiment for a good 20 minutes and we traveled about a quarter mile.  It's amazing how much easier it is to carry when a rider is properly balanced.  She would stop me once in a while and adjust her position.  Each time she did that, she would feel much lighter when we got going again.  She used some leg cues to which I responded, but mostly we just got acquainted.  I was pretty tired physically after our short ride, but inspired big time by her attention and enthusiasm.  She really enjoyed it and I'm sure we will go again soon.  I'll post here again if anyone is interested in hearing how we progress.  Not sure she would let me get a picture... maybe from her view down..  Yeah, I could probably get some like that.

To those who would love to be ridden, but have never asked; don't let your life pass without trying.  My advise is to take a interest in horseback riding events in your area and start off just trying to make friends.  Worked for me!

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#2 2013-05-17 23:35:21

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Re: 1st ride of the season

... a great way for you to keep fit too - much cheaper and more enjoyable than going to a gym. And a great way to give a female some enjoyment. Maybe you could set up a video camera on a tripod and show her mounting you and then riding you from the back (i.e. back view) as you set off?

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#3 2013-05-18 01:06:18

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Re: 1st ride of the season

Great story tusk333!

Although I'm a rider myself, my mount repeatedly tells me how good it feels to carry a well balanced rider. I've been riding horses for over 20 years myself, so that pays off when riding humans as well. It makes the whole experience so much better for both!

Hopefully, you'll get the training you're looking for. A well trained horse and a skillful rider are a match made in heaven. And keep on sharing your stories!

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#4 2013-05-18 09:42:23

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Re: 1st ride of the season

Thank you, Tusk to share with us such an exciting story! I also share your envy for the non verbal communication received by the bio-horses, and I wonder how it could be adapted to human riding. Basic orders, like going right or left, and going faster,  should be easy, with just heel-kicks and some form of a bit and reins, ( probably very embryonic, to be acceptable in public), but what about more complex communication like walking sideways, prancing, shifting from trot to walk, kneeling down when the rdier wants to dismount ...... ?????

I wish you many more rides with this great rider,and please ..... keep us posted !

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#5 2013-05-18 21:06:24

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Re: 1st ride of the season

This is lovely Tusk and like Equidum I share that touch of envy at some of the non verbal commands... I sigh at the thought of heel commands and my hair used as reins.
I also like the sound of the balance things she and you were doing, and am glad that you found such a good rider! Thank you for sharing your experience!

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#6 2013-05-19 00:41:15

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Re: 1st ride of the season

The essential thing about shoulder-riding as an activity is that one person (the rider) is physically and mentally in control of another person (who is the so-called 'pony'). Once a rider is sat astride the shoulders of the other person who does the carrying and, indeed, the walking, he (or she if the pony is female) is subject to the commands and orders of the rider. The fact is that a rider is in a very dominant position (or potentially dominant position) by the very fact that he or she is sat astride the other person's shoulders. How dominant the rider chooses to be depends on the rider. Some (maybe most) male ponies may well prefer a dominant female rider but rarely get one. On the other hand, a male rider riding a male pony is likely to want to ride in a dominant way. A few male ponies will sometimes try to find an extremely dominant male rider who will happily sit on their shoulders until they have rode them to exhaustion. This power relationship between the rider and the carrier in which the rider has all the power is the thing that makes shoulder-riding an erotic activity - more so if there is an understanding between the rider and the carrier that the pony is subject to the commands and orders of the rider. So this understanding between rider and carrier - which may not even be explicitly verbally expressed - means that the carrier is expected to carry the rider for as long as the rider wishes and in a way that the rider wants. Although it seems contrary to common sense, quite a few carriers love the challenge and excitement of being 'made' to carry another person who is sat dominantly astride their shoulders even if, after an exhausting carrying session, they end up with an aching back and shoulders. For them, they have satisfied their desire (for a while at least) to feel the weight of another person on their shoulders and, more importantly, to know what it is like to be ridden by another person as though they were a horse or pony. The secret of a really good shoulder-ride is to find the right 'jockey' for the right 'pony.'

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#7 2013-05-19 17:41:09

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"Most male ponies will prefer a dominant female rider, but rarely get one"  That's absolutely true, Checkmateguy, unfortunately!
That's why I often play with the idea of being a pony for a male rider, which would actually mean being the slave of a male master ... I would probably try it if I was just a few years younger, although I am a 100% straight guy. I know there are some old ponies on this forum who still carry heavy male riders despite their old age, and I truely admire them! But I doubt I could offer any decent service to a male rider, partly because he would be a male, but, more importantly because he would be heavier than a Female rider, and therefore too much of a challenge for my declining strengthes ... sad

That being said, I fully agree with your analysis of the dynamic rider/ridee, Checkmateguy. If my command of English was better, I would try and emphasize the Superior/inferior dimension of the riding relationship : SR very often is the emerging part of the iceberg. There is a lot more underwater indeed !

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#8 2013-05-19 19:49:35

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Re: 1st ride of the season

Your command of English and the way you express yourself in the language is excellent, equidum. I wish I was as proficient in French.

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#9 2013-05-19 19:51:46

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Re: 1st ride of the season

Thank you Tusk for your wonderful contribution. I am particularly fond of carrying women who have actual riding experience on real horses. They seem to have great balance and some even playfully make sounds that could be interpreted as signals or give kicks to encourage their human mount in the spirit of having fun. It sounds like you have found a great riding partner. Please continue to share your exploits and if you don't mind, I would love to know a few more details in terms of her physical description and weight, etc. I hope you have many more rides.

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#10 2013-05-26 19:18:52

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Re: 1st ride of the season

checkmateguy wrote:

Although it seems contrary to common sense, quite a few carriers love the challenge and excitement of being 'made' to carry another person who is sat dominantly astride their shoulders even if, after an exhausting carrying session, they end up with an aching back and shoulders. For them, they have satisfied their desire (for a while at least) to feel the weight of another person on their shoulders and, more importantly, to know what it is like to be ridden by another person as though they were a horse or pony.

Why would that be "contrary to common sense" or surprising at all? Far more people (M or W) very much enjoy regularly lifting weights at a gym, despite ending up with aching body parts (legs, arms, back, shoulders, and what not). It's called exercise. Some say guys like giving rides to girls because of the fantasy (fetish) of submitting to female domination. Then (far more) guys pumping iron have the fetish of domination by weights?

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#11 2013-05-26 19:54:34

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Re: 1st ride of the season

Fisk wrote:

checkmateguy wrote:

Although it seems contrary to common sense, quite a few carriers love the challenge and excitement of being 'made' to carry another person who is sat dominantly astride their shoulders even if, after an exhausting carrying session, they end up with an aching back and shoulders. For them, they have satisfied their desire (for a while at least) to feel the weight of another person on their shoulders and, more importantly, to know what it is like to be ridden by another person as though they were a horse or pony.

Why would that be "contrary to common sense" or surprising at all? Far more people (M or W) very much enjoy regularly lifting weights at a gym, despite ending up with aching body parts (legs, arms, back, shoulders, and what not). It's called exercise. Some say guys like giving rides to girls because of the fantasy (fetish) of submitting to female domination. Then (far more) guys pumping iron have the fetish of domination by weights?

I agree and enjoy the idea of being pushed to and beyond my comfort zone as a pony.  But a horse's purpose is to connect with and work for it's rider.  So, I'm trying to figure out what that means for my rider.  She is overly concerned (in my opinion) for my safety.  Keeps talking about spinal compression injuries.  Any ponies out there ever have this kind of injury from shoulder riding activities?

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#12 2013-05-26 22:15:10

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Re: 1st ride of the season

Spinal compression injuries are one of the dangers that face 'ponies,' particularly if they give shoulder rides to riders who weigh too much in relation to the weight and carrying abilities of ponies. As most people know, between the individual bones of the spine, there are cartridge discs which can get squeezed out if or when too much weight is put on the spine. A similar thing can happen if or when a person lifts something too heavy. Such an injury is called a slipped disc. Once an injury like this occurs it takes a long time to heal and it's painful too and limits walking. In actual fact, this type of injury never really heals. The injury or damage caused to the spine tends to be lifelong.  Apart from being ridden by a rider who is too heavy, a back injury can also be caused to the pony if the pony stands behind the rider and puts his head between the rider's legs and then lifts the rider up onto his shoulders. The pony could also get a neck injury too. So the female rider who was concerned for the safety of her pony was acting in the best interests of her pony by drawing his attention to this danger.

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#13 2013-05-27 10:09:17

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Re: 1st ride of the season

tusk333 wrote:

Keeps talking about spinal compression injuries.  Any ponies out there ever have this kind of injury from shoulder riding activities?

Absolutely yes. It's totally critical to set a conservative and firm limit on the weight you accept on your shoulders and stick to it,
resisting any temptation to exceed it "just to try", or because someone asks or dares you. This does not at all detract from the challenge, as a lighter weight can be compensated for by duration and/or speed. It not only safer, but also a far better workout (and much more fun) to give a 30-min. fast ride to a, say, 105 pound girl, than to stagger and wobble under a 170-pound one for a couple minutes.

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#14 2013-05-27 17:48:34

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Re: 1st ride of the season

I totally agree with both Fisk and Checmateguy, and would just add a short comment : Problems generally occur when your back is working in a wrong position, especially while you're lifting your rider, and your back is then working with an angle.  That's the moment when one of your spinal discs may be pinched between two vertebrae and you're in for a sciatica which can last from a few days to a lifelong recurrent problem ... So, it's better to avoid that lifting of riders, even if they are not that heavy ...

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#15 2013-05-27 19:14:18

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Re: 1st ride of the season

Talking about lifting: when I was at school aged about 14, two boys about the same age as me who, I think were either brothers or friends, got two other boys to stand behind them and push their heads between the brothers/friends' legs. These two boys who'd pushed their heads between the other boys' legs then lifted the two boys up on the backs of their necks until they were sat on their shoulders and then back down again. The most amazing thing was that these two boys did this maybe 10 times non-stop - i.e. lifting and lowering the two boys. The other rather surprising thing was that this happened in the playground and, as it was a mixed comprehensive school, amongst the crowd of kids watching were at least as many girls as boys. Obviously, boys are a lot lighter and easier to lift this way than grown guys or girls. But I've always remember this incident and have often wondered how the two boys who were lifted and lowered this way actually got the other two boys to do that.

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#16 2013-05-30 18:11:13

tusk333
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Re: 1st ride of the season

Thanks for all the input.  I have never had back trouble and my rider is quite light.  It just seems there should not be an issue so long as I don't lift her improperly.  Still, she will decide whether we train again.  Last time we were out, she declined my invitation to mount up.  Could be back to pasture for this pony.  I'm not going to offer again, hopefully she will ask.

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